Mina Starsiak Hawk reflects on why the business she started with her mom, Karen E. Laine, is still called Two Chicks and a Hammer — even though Laine retired from the company nearly five years ago.
In the latest episode of her podcast, Mina AF, Starsiak Hawk answers a listener’s question about why she didn’t change “Two” to “One”.
Star of HGTV Good bones said she won’t give up the number, despite seeing comments on social media saying she “shouldn’t keep the name” of the Indianapolis-based company she and her mother started after they started renovating homes in 2007.
“We’ve been building that company since 2009,” she explained, talking to husband Steve Hawk. “And when Mom decided to retire, I financially bought her share of the company and owned the whole thing, owned the name, owned the copyright, all that stuff.”
She added that it would seem “stupid” to change the name of the company she had worked to build for so many years, even though people have “wild feelings” about it.
“I redesigned the logo,” Mina pointed out. “So before, the Two Chicks part, it was like ‘Two Chicks’ was really big and ‘Hammer’ would kind of sit in smaller text underneath. And the name is still Two Chicks and a Hammer, but ‘Two Chicks and a’ is a little bit on top, and then ‘Hammer’ is big. So it leans more on the construction side.”
“Even though I was the only one running it for a while, we both started it,” she continued. “So I think it would be almost, like, inappropriate to change it to, like, ‘One Chick’ and take credit for the whole company.”
Although Laine retired from the company in 2019, she continued to appear alongside Mina and their team on Good boneswhich ended in 2023 after eight seasons.
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Karen E. Laine and Mina Starsiak Hawk.
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While it’s the last season Good bones aired, Mina spoke in the podcast about the tensions she and her family were experiencing off-camera. She revealed that she was not “in a good place” with either her mother or her brother Tad Starsiak.
In the March episode Mine AF, she shared, “I think a lot of people felt really weird or uncomfortable when the show ended the way it did and in a way that curtain was pulled back a little bit, like, ‘Oh, she and her mom don’t have the perfect relationship that it looks like on the show. And then people come back and say, ‘You know what? I could actually see that. I could see they were irritated with each other.’”
While answering questions from listeners on last week’s episode of her podcast, Mina called out the last two seasons Good bones “really hard emotionally and mentally, financially and physically.”
Mina Starsiak Hawk and Steve Hawk with their children, Jack and Charlotte.
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She admitted that she was starting to feel like the “weight” of the long-running series was weighing on her.
“The stakes were so high,” she said. “That was all my money. It was my family’s money. It was the success of my business.”
Mina, who shares two children with Steve – son Jack, 5, and daughter Charlie, 3 – said signing up for another show would require a “healthier” balance.
She recalled how someone suggested to her the idea of a play that “leans on the elderly Good bones model, I might work with some of those people again.”
“I just think it would be a very bad decision for me, mentally and emotionally, let alone financially, to go back to that place,” she said.
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Mina Starsiak Hawk.
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When the person mentioned money, Mina did not change her attitude.
“I said, ‘There’s not enough money in the world to put me where I was a year ago, because it was so bad,’ she said, before adding, ‘That’s probably a lie. If someone said, ‘I’ll give you a million dollars an episode,’ and I had to go back to that place for a year, but I’d be ready for the rest of my life, maybe it would be worth it.”
“There’s no realistic amount of money that I think would be worth fighting as hard as I did,” she continued. “And I think that’s really hard for people to understand — how much I was in, like, a really bad place.”
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