Susan Sarandon pulls back the veil on a family secret.
The actress and activist (76) was a guest on a recent episode of Chris Sarandon’s podcast Cooking with heartwhere she and her ex-husband, 81, reminisced about certain aspects of their courtship and marriage in the 1960s and 70s.
While discussing their 1967 wedding, Susan recalled that her mother, Lenora Criscione Tomalin, was pregnant at the time—and said that her father, Phillip Tomalin, “had an affair with one of the bridesmaids, so it was a very successful trip.”
Lenora, who died in 2020, and Phillip, who died in 1999, were married until 1982 and had nine children, Susan being the eldest. According to the actress, her mother “was basically pregnant the whole time” and “had a few miscarriages.”
As for Lenore’s pregnancy at the time of Susan’s wedding, “I think she was embarrassed,” he said Rocky Horror Picture Show star. “She was 44 years old.”
Susan Sarandon on Chris Sarandon Cooking with heart podcast.
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According to Susan, who was 20 at the time, her mother never acknowledged any embarrassment, but instead told her daughter that she “can’t get married.”
Her father disagreed and ended up attending the wedding – as did her mother, but she wore a “black raincoat” and sat “at the back of the church for about 10 minutes”.
“None of my siblings could come except my brother who was below me, who insisted I come,” Susan said.
During their conversation, Susan and Chris – who met while she was in college – also talked about how much they appreciate each other.
“I credit you for my foundation and my survival. I just thank you. That’s very kind,” she said. “One of the reasons I’m here is just to say it publicly.”
Chris Sarandon and Susan Sarandon.
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In a recent interview with PEOPLE, Chris — who has remarried twice and will celebrate 30 years of marriage next year to Tony-winning actress and singer Joanna Gleason — had similarly kind words to say about Susan and their time together.
“We both have strong feelings about that part of our lives and how those formative relationships are always important and you can’t completely leave them behind,” he said. The princess bride actor. “Sometimes you have to revisit them — if not in nostalgia, more in the sense of, yes, there was love there, and there still is on another level. It’s not romantic love, but there’s still love.”
Chris also praised Susan for being an “extraordinary human being” both before and after they met, adding: “Her development as both an actress and a social activist has been so hugely encouraging to me in so many ways, because obviously I knew her when is, and to see it happen in such a healthy and humanitarian way, a humanistic way, is very satisfying.”
“I knew she was a great person when we were together, and she’s still a great person. She’s a wonderful person,” he said.
Susan Sarandon and Chris Sarandon on his Cooking with heart podcast.
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Chris and Susan, who were married from 1967 to 1979, have no children, although they have three each from other relationships. Chris has two daughters and one son with ex-wife Lisa Ann Cooper, and also has a stepson with Gleason (73).
Susan is mom to actress Eva Amurri (38), who she shares with Italian director Franco Amurri, as well as her children with actor Tim Robbins: director Jack Henry Robbins (34) and actor/musician Miles Robbins (31).
In August 2021, the Oscar winner told PEOPLE that she hopes to find her forever partner soon — but she’s in no rush.
“I would like to have a companion, male, female – age doesn’t matter,” she said at the time, “but I would like to find someone who is ready for an adventurous attitude. And also, who cares about something passionately and who loves what they do, whatever that is.” either.”
“As far as a romantic relationship, I don’t know,” Susan also said. “That window may have closed, but I’m always hopeful — but not desperate.”
Cooking with heart it’s available wherever podcasts are broadcast.
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